–> Do NOT install Icy in Blackra1n <–

I had installed icy, rock, and Cydia through blackra1n. What you have to do is search for debian packager in cydia, and install that. Next you have to search for and install mobile substrate. Then SBSettimgs will work, you don’t have reinstall them.

I have read a ton of complaints about blackra1n, and justifiably so. There are a few quirks with Icy and the install process on the 3G. I have to say that I am thankful for geohot and blackra1n. I have a 3GS OTB with 3.1, and only Windows systems. Were it not for blackra1n, I would still be a prisoner to Apple. I have had 0 problems since using blackra1n (the very first day it was available). I have since JB my wife’s 3G 3.1.2, daughter’s 2G 3.1.2, and other daughter’s 2G Touch 3.1.2. The only one I had problems with was the 3G, but that was easily overcome.

Bottom line is that we Windows users have no other options, since Dev-Team only programs for OSX, and who knows if iH8sn0w will truly release something for the 3GS.

Wow, so you’re complaining about something that someone did for free, and was coded in a few days.
Read that again.
So what if he included an old Icy version?

Maybe you should just wait for the dev team to come up with something for windows instead?
Oh that’s right, they can’t be bothered to do something in windows that can patch a file and send it down the USB port.
That’s pretty shallow for people who can reverse engineer machine code.
Also, so what if geohot accepts donations? You don’t seem to mind paying $$$ for JB apps from the dev team that aren’t exactly doing something as fundamental as doing the JB.

You guys are so screwed up… just because there are some minor problems you guys are shooting and flaming him. If you guys (bigboss included) are so good, why not make your own jailbreak?

I mean who made 3GS to be jailbreakable? First purplerain and then blackrain. I have some of the above problems but its WAY BETTER than having a plain normal iphone.

BTW, I see theres nothing to do with donation coz no1 forced anyone for donation.

Seriously, I used to respect Bigboss for all the tips and stuff but this post is way too low. How can you flame someone if you are not as good as them?

Hello BigBoss

your site has adverstising overlays that prevent me from reading your home page

I could not find a contact link to let you know this privately

Your website has become practically unuseable for me, due to the advertising

Lol I never said he was forcing. I said he wanted the money from Donations if people liked it.
Plus I’m not flamming. I’m being the most respectfoul around here and giving out the bad points and the good points. But you readers around don’t know how to read and somehow only read the parts when I’m talking bad about blackra1n and not the good ones because most of you are a bunch of whining people thinking you’re doing the right thing when there’s no need to.
I’ll repeat again: I’m not flamming, I’m not slowing GeoHot down. I’m just saying that he made a really fast jailbreak and also really DFU needless (good points) but it lacks of SSH and has a different feedback (bad points): Icy isn’t a problem since it wasn’t that really good on organization (even thought it was faster than Cydia, /much/ faster :P)

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Cydia is all I need, and Rock Your Phone App to me seems like another wanna be JB App Store! Icy is nice but you should never include it as stated in past jailbreak guides on the actually Jb but off Cydia.

Oops I meant “Blackra1n”

can any one give link for proper or working “dpkg” file please.. so i can replace that file on my iPhone 3G.
i am not able to install anything through cydia!
it’s(Cydia) keep on giving the error “Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)”
what i have done is..
updated to 3.1.2 and tried with blackra1n which could’t helped me ,then i downgraded to 3.0 and JB with “redsn0w” ofcource i messed up with baseband update “05.11.07″
but my cydia is not working now coz of dpkg

To quote “put the Services.plist file in its place to fix this problem. Just later, a tweak/utility appeared on BigBoss’s repo to fix this.”

I cannot find this utility. Does someone know the name to search for?

In Cydia, it is called afc2add. Install it, then reboot your iPhone/iPod Touch

You guys are too anxious… Dev team always coded first for macs and later for windoh
if black rain fails all you need to do is wait… Or keep whining on the internet

It’s not a “minor” bug. It’s major. If you install Icy you have to restore. The jailbreak is worthless in this state as you cannot install software. What good is a jailbreak that you cant install software?

I have been flooded with support email all due to this problem. No one is bashing Geohot. He did a great job. I would just like it if he could take 10 seconds and pull the Icy bundle out of the package.

i have a 3g at 3.1.2. my cydia stopped installing anything and would not even load package list. would keep saying that it failed to fetch things. so i got rid of it and installed icy through blackrain i have installed multiple apps and they seem to be fully functioning.

Geohot just announced that he’s releasing blackra1n RC2 tomorrow, in which Icy is fixed, and the 3G issue is fixed.

That’s right, all those “windohs” people, stop whinging, you’ll get a application soon. You stupid mac fanboy.

I think the dev team may also fall into the mac only elitism:

Let’s see, take that there must be 10 windows PCs out there for every mac. It wouldn’t be too surprising that the majority of iphone users have a windows PC. Now tell me why windows users don’t have the pwnage tool equivalent a month and a half later? Surely they’re only hurting themselves touting their own apps in cydia since people are waiting for a windows version?

How hard could it be for the dev team to recruit a windows coder? Or is it more a case that the dev team is too snobby and so up apple’s ass that it takes them that long to recode something that could be knocked up in VS in a few days?
Remember, they already have code to redo the FW, all they’d need is to convert that and then squirt it down a usb port.
There’s no excuse that they can’t code for windows without the hardware, as you can even install the damn OS on a mac. Shame PCs cant just install mac os or get a virtual machine to run it, then we wouldn’t have to resort to sponge a custom FW off someone with a mac.

Keep it up Geohot, maybe you can embarrass the dev team into pulling their fingers out. Funny how him and lots of other developers can code for different platforms fairly easily.

Never mind about about my 3g working it freaked out and stopped installing apps. I restored and now I can’t jb again.

There is a update for blackra1n (RC2) available now at blackra1n.com that fixes the bugs and the icy patch….

Well, I am a Mac OS X user and tried using the Dev Team’s pwnage tool solution. I got nothing but 1604 errors.

A fair number of other folks had the same problem. You want to know what the suggested solution by the dev team was?

Jailbreak the 3Gs with blackra1n and then install my custom firmware (with with pwnage tool). That solution worked for me like a charm.

So I for one am grateful for Geohot’s work.

All you geohot bashers… I hope you don’t run 3.1.2 and need to unlock your iPhone. He’s found an unlock for the latest baseband.

You can view the details at iPhone Atlas.

As for me, I’ll be unlocking my phone and thanking geohot for his work. As I’ve noted in the past, both the dev team and geohot are doing valuable work. You all should get over yourselves and be thankful that this guy is spending his time working on this stuff.

يلا

This is a pretty fiery conversation, and maybe I’m being a fool for putting my two cents in, but…

I personally had a great experience with Blackra1n. That said, it was with the RC2 or RC3 release (no Icy bundle), and it was on a 3G 3.1.2 model phone – cleaner than the first releases, I know.

The only problem I ran into was using a USB hub the first shot. My fault. Directly to a USB port it worked like a charm.

Bottom line… here’s my two cents:

1. As someone relatively new to the JB-world, I greatly appreciated the lack of bundled features/stuff, and a clear separation between JB and Unlock. Further, I was very glad that it did NOT include SSH. I find distribution like this makes it easier to understand whats happening, especially when something fails. It also makes more sense to avoid assuming that every person JB’ing their phone wants AFC, SSH, or to Unlock the baseband for other carriers, or even use Icy. Applications with a single purpose are always better apps – ask any developer.

2. That said, as a developer myself I agree with BigBoss, distributing “plug-ins” or additional stuff that doesn’t function properly is wanky and unprofessional.

3. Maybe the kid did rush his package for some coins or his ego… but it matters absolutely none and is adolescent to argue about it. He’s done the entire community a huge service. Remember he is only human and that he (hopefully) does have some bit of a life outside his hack-world… for god’s sake in the few weeks that everyone was in panic about a buggy application hopefully the kid was getting laid, or a little sunshine, or reading a book with his donations… ;)

anyway… thanks.
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I am kind of iffy about installous. Last time I installed it my device revolted it’s self without me doing anything. Then Cidia stopped working. If you still want it the source is Curia.hackulo.us